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Old 08-05-2014, 05:33 PM
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I was towing my boat (16' aluminum) with my truck and got to a corner and when I went around the corner my transmission acted like it was low on fluid. There was a flare in RPMs on the second to third shift and then it was going into and out of lock-up. I went another four miles and stopped to figure out what was going on and checked the dipstick. In neutral there was no fluid on it! I had a quart in the box so I walked to the back of the truck and saw spots of oil on the truck and boat. I looked under the truck and the fluid was POURING out from the bell housing!! Long story short, a friend of mine came and towed my boat and a wrecker towed my truck home. I called the guy that did the rebuild (1300 miles ago) and he tried to say the torque converter was the problem, then he changed it to the fact I didn't let him install a new stock transmission (833 lb/ft of torque would tear it up) and he just did a "band-aid" (his words) then he tried to tell me the tranny was over heating. After things got a bit warm between us he did say to find out what happened and get back to him. I discussed the problem with another shop and they said that some builders use a pump bushing that wasn't the highest quality and they have been known to spin the bushing out and ruin the seal. I hope that is all it is, but I won't know until I pull the transmission and figure out what happened.
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Old 08-05-2014, 06:39 PM
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Oh my, your boat does not weigh anywhere near what you camper weighs. So now your truck is out for another 2 weeks?
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Old 08-05-2014, 06:41 PM
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I hope not. I am going to pull the tranny myself and see what screwed up this time..... I hope it is something simple.
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Old 08-06-2014, 05:13 PM
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I hope it is simple and easy for you.

What upsets me is, when I was looking for a truck, I checked my state and the two next to me and all I could find was autos. It was impossible to buy a manual. Seems manufactures likes autos and the access to them later for profit. I miss my manual and the simplicity of them. It wouldn't have a much trouble as your going through, unless the shop was a crook.
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Old 08-06-2014, 07:03 PM
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Yea, I know, Jim. I am beginning to wonder about the place I took it to. The torque converter bolts were just snug, not tight, The eight bolts in the cross member took three different wrenches, the transmission mount had two different bolts in it and is almost torn in two, plus the cross member bolts were so tight my 1/2" impact would not break them loose. I got the transmission on the floor and pulled the pump cover, but saw nothing that jumped out at me as to the cause. I guess I need to take it to a friend of mine that will do a good job. He even told me that if I wanted I could spend the day with him in his shop and he would teach me about the auto tranny.
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Old 08-07-2014, 10:02 AM
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The guy I am taking my transmission to can't get to it until next Wednesday, so my truck is down for another week.....
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Old 08-12-2014, 12:58 PM
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I got a few pictures to get someone's opinion about the 'quality' of some workmanship. Does this look to be "normal" for a transmission shop? The first two are of black silicone in the bell housing and the next one is what the transmission mount looks like. I bought a new one for a whopping $27.
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Old 08-12-2014, 10:30 PM
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What the heck was there silicone doing anywhere in there ?
I've seen my past vehicles auto trans worked on, and they looked pristine in every way, nothing like this.
Can they save it or is there major work ?
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Old 08-13-2014, 04:59 AM
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According to Goerend Transmission:
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sometimes folks put silicone over the pipe plug that holds the front band apply arm pin in as a precautionary step
I don't know what to make of it, but I sure as hell would not have put that trans mount back in like that. I am going to find out today what is going on.
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Old 08-13-2014, 02:31 PM
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Well, the verdict is in. I need one pump bushing, a reman pump, new front clutches and steels, and send the converter back to Goerends to have a new hub put on to the tune of about $1200. Apparently the silicone is not much of an issue. It covers a plug for the front band. The first two pictures are of the pump bushing. The second are the front steels.
HOWEVER, has anyone ever seen a "rebuilder" that grinds on the front steels to give them better friction????
Looks to be another week before I get it back due to the converter.
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