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Old 02-02-2011, 09:09 PM
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So, my truck, a Dodge Cummins, has been plugged in for 5 hours, with what seems to be little to no warmth, but there is a tiny bit.

The grid heaters seem to be cycling, however I can't feel the intake horn getting warm at all either.

I do have battery power, but not enough to crank the engine over. I have 2 jump packs hooked up, cycled the heaters 3 times and tried to crank, and it made it 1/2 a revolution and stopped dead. And lost all power to everything.

Anyone have any ideas? did my block heater and grids heaters all crap out at once?

I have two- year and a half old interstates, which to this day have had no issues with starting my truck if it's been plugged in for at least 2 hours.

HELP!

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Old 02-02-2011, 09:22 PM
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Have you checked for corroded ends on BOTH ends of the cables? Maybe they are barely contacting. If you have a multimeter you can check resistance between the engine block and the negative battery post and see what you get, should be 0-10 ohms or so. Then I would make sure the positive side is good visually. You can test it with the multimeter also by putting a lead on the big starter contact and the other side on the positive terminal of the battery (but it is a pain to get to).

Your batteries could also be dead from a bad cell in them or something. Check voltage across them, should be over 12V.

Do your dome lights still work?
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Old 02-02-2011, 09:30 PM
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Since there has been cold temps all over, the batteries have to work a little harder to start our trucks. The grid heaters take about 100 amps to heat up, and when trying to start the truck the oil is really thick also creating drag.

Your truck block heater may have some troubles with the really cold temps. The grid heaters may not heat the metal intake horn at all.

Like ISX asked, lights come on?
12 volts at batteries, are the connections tight and corrosion free?
Can you turn the cable ends on the batteries?
Does the WTS light come on, ABS and Seat Belt come on?
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Old 02-02-2011, 09:35 PM
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I've wondered about the terminals, but never had an issue before now. . . kinda pissing me off
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Old 02-02-2011, 10:00 PM
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Well, the truck will stay plugged in over night, batteries are in the house getting trickle charged, and the terminals will be cleaned in the morning then have the batteries installed and tried to start again.

I am going to remove the ADR and send it in for warranty AGAIN and see what happens.

Any other ideas?
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Old 02-02-2011, 10:24 PM
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Having the batteries warm will help, having the truck plugged in will also help. Just remember to reset the APPS. Put the batteries back in, turn the truck on, push the pedal down slowly and let it up slowly, turn off the truck. This will reset the APPS/Throttle. Also, this will help with preheating the engine, grid heaters will cycle some.
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Old 02-02-2011, 10:30 PM
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I won't be the one installing batteries, will the apps NEED to be reset?

I really don't think my block heater works, after being plugged in for 5 hours there was no noticeable temp difference between the heater itself, and the intake manifold. . . . that tells me that the block heater no worky
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Old 02-02-2011, 10:41 PM
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No, the APPS doesn't need to be reset, but it might help.
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Old 02-02-2011, 10:42 PM
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Also, with the cold temperatures the block heater might be having a hard time keeping up.
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Old 02-02-2011, 10:47 PM
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I think my next purchase will be some type of auxillary heater, or a new block heater, because this one doesn't seem to cut it. . .
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