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Old 02-14-2013, 05:09 PM
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In the diagram is looks like # 4 & 5 are also grounds. Try those as well.

You also need to make sure that all the fuses inside the truck and under the hood are good.
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:13 AM
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Here is some more information for trying to diagnose the gauge problem you have. It is a long read, but I think it may point you in the right direction:

PRELIMINARY DIAGNOSIS
If the indicator lamps operate, but none of the gauges operate, go to Step 2. If all of the gauges and the CCD data bus message-controlled indicator lamps are inoperative, go to Step 5.
Check the fused B(+) fuse in the junction block. If OK, go to Step 3. If not OK, repair the shorted circuit or component as required and replace the faulty fuse.
Check for battery voltage at the fused B(+) fuse in the junction block. If OK, go to Step 4. If not OK, repair the open fused B(+) circuit to the battery as required.
Disconnect and isolate the battery negative cable. Remove the instrument cluster. Connect the battery negative cable. Check for battery voltage at the fused B(+) circuit cavity of the instrument cluster wire harness connector A. If OK, refer to Instrument Cluster - Self-Diagnostic Test in the Diagnosis and Testing section of this group. If not OK, repair the open fused B(+) circuit to the fuse in the junction block as required.
Check the fused ignition switch output (run/start) fuse in the junction block. If OK, go to Step 6. If not OK, repair the shorted circuit or component as required and replace the faulty fuse.
Turn the ignition switch to the On position and check for battery voltage at the fused ignition switch output (run/start) fuse in the junction block. If OK, go to Step 7. If not OK, repair the open fused ignition switch output (run/start) circuit to the ignition switch as required.
Turn the ignition switch to the Off position. Disconnect and isolate the battery negative cable. Install the instrument cluster. Connect the battery negative cable. Turn the ignition switch to the On position. Set the park brake. The red brake warning lamp should light. If OK, go to Step 8. If not OK, go to Step 9.
Turn the ignition switch to the Off position. Turn on the park lamps and adjust the panel lamps dimmer thumbwheel on the headlamp switch to the full bright position. The cluster illumination lamps should light. If OK, go to Step 10. If not OK, repair the open power ground circuit from the instrument cluster wire harness connector A to ground as required.
Turn the ignition switch to the Off position. Disconnect and isolate the battery negative cable. Remove the instrument cluster. Connect the battery negative cable. Turn the ignition switch to the On position. Check for battery voltage at the fused ignition switch output (run/start) circuit cavity of the instrument cluster wire harness connector A. If OK, refer to Instrument Cluster - Self-Diagnostic Test in the Diagnosis and Testing section of this group. If not OK, repair the open fused ignition switch output (run/start) circuit to the fuse in the junction block as required.
Disconnect and isolate the battery negative cable. Remove the instrument cluster. Check for continuity between the logic ground circuit cavity of the instrument cluster wire harness connector A and a good ground. There should be continuity. If OK, refer to Instrument Cluster - Self-Diagnostic Test in the Diagnosis and Testing section of this group. If not OK, repair the open logic ground circuit to ground as required.
SELF-DIAGNOSTIC TEST
The instrument cluster self-diagnostic test will put the instrument cluster into its self-diagnostic mode. In this mode the instrument cluster can perform a self-diagnostic test that will confirm that the instrument cluster circuitry, the gauges, and the CCD data bus message-controlled indicator lamps are capable of operating as designed.

However, there may still be a problem with the CCD data bus, the Powertrain Control Module (PCM), the Airbag Control Module (ACM), the Controller Anti-lock Brake (CAB), or the inputs to one of these electronic control modules. Use a DRBIII® scan tool and the proper Diagnostic Procedures manual for testing of these components.

NOTE: If a CCD data bus message is not received by the instrument cluster for twenty seconds, the Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) will flash and a "no bus" message will appear in the VFD odometer display.

Begin the test with the ignition switch in the Off position.
Depress the trip odometer reset button.
While holding the trip odometer reset button depressed, turn the ignition switch to the On position, but do not start the engine.
Keep the trip odometer reset button depressed for about ten seconds, until CHEC appears in the odometer display, then release the odometer reset button.
A series of three-digit numeric failure messages may appear in the odometer display, depending upon the failure mode. If a failure message appears, see the Instrument Cluster Failure Message chart for the description and proper correction. If no failure message appears, the self-diagnostic test will proceed as described in Step 6.
INSTRUMENT CLUSTER FAILURE MESSAGE
Message Description Code 110
A failure has been identified in the cluster CPU, RAM, or EEPROM.
1. Replace the faulty cluster.
The CCD data bus is not operational. Message Description Code 900
1. Check the CCD data bus connections at the cluster.
2. Check the cluster fuses.
3. Check the CCD data bus bias.
4. Check the CCD data bus voltage.
5. Check the CCD data bus terminations.
920 The cluster is not receiving a vehicle speed message from the PCM.
1. Check the PCM software level and reflash if required.
2. Use a DRBIII® scan tool to verify that the vehicle speed message is being sent by the PCM.
921 The cluster is not receiving a distance pulse message from the PCM.
1. Check the PCM software level and reflash if required.
2. Use a DRBIII® scan tool to verify that the distance pulse message is being sent by the PCM.
940 The cluster is not receiving an airbag lamp-on message from the ACM.
1. Check the CCD data bus connections at the ACM.
2. Check the ACM fuse.
950 The cluster is not receiving an ABS lamp-on message from the CAB.
1. Check the CCD data bus connections at the CAB.
2. Check the CAB fuse.
999 An error has been discovered.
1. Record the failure message.
2. Depress the trip odometer reset button to continue the Self-Diagnostic Test.

The instrument cluster will begin the odometer walking segment test. This test will require the operator to visually inspect each odometer segment as it is displayed to determine a pass or fail condition. First, all of the segments will be illuminated at once; then, each individual segment of the odometer display will be illuminated in sequence. If any segment in the display fails to illuminate, repeat the test to confirm the failure. If the failure is confirmed, replace the faulty instrument cluster. Following the odometer walking segment test, the self-diagnostic test will automatically proceed as described in Step 7.
The instrument cluster will perform a bulb check of each indicator lamp that the instrument cluster circuitry controls. If the wait-to-start indicator lamp does not illuminate during this test, the instrument cluster should be removed. However, check that the incandescent lamp bulb is not faulty and that the bulb holder is properly installed on the instrument cluster electronic circuit board before considering instrument cluster replacement. If the bulb and bulb holder check OK, replace the faulty instrument cluster. Each of the remaining instrument cluster circuitry controlled indicators are illuminated by a Light Emitting Diode (LED) If an LED fails to illuminate during this test, the instrument cluster must be replaced. Following the bulb check test, the self-diagnostic test will automatically proceed as described in Step 8.
The instrument cluster will perform a gauge actuator test. In this test the instrument cluster circuitry positions each of the gauge needles at three different calibration points, then returns the gauge needles to their relaxed positions. If an individual gauge does not respond properly, or does not respond at all during the gauge actuator test, the instrument cluster should be removed. However, check that the gauge terminal pins are properly inserted through the spring-clip terminal pin receptacles on the instrument cluster electronic circuit board before considering instrument cluster replacement. If the gauge terminal connections are OK, replace the faulty instrument cluster.
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Old 02-19-2013, 05:18 AM
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Thats awesome. Looking at the write up I should be able to fix it. Its pretty informative
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Old 03-01-2013, 05:02 AM
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Sorry I havent reported back to you guys lately. Ive been remodeling my house but hopefully ill get to work on it next week
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Old 03-01-2013, 06:17 PM
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No worries, we will be anxiously awaiting the outcome of the testing and what you did to resolve the problems.
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Old 03-10-2013, 05:17 PM
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Any news?????
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Old 03-10-2013, 07:46 PM
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I actually just sold it a couple days ago and bought a gasser but I'm anxiously waiting to buy a newer diesel pretty soon. I REALLY appreciate all your help. This forum has got to be the best most informative forum I've ever been involved with
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Old 03-10-2013, 09:35 PM
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You sold it with the gauges not working? I was really hoping to find out why they weren't....Oh well, you don't need a diesel to drop in and say hi!
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Old 03-10-2013, 09:53 PM
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Yea i was too. That's the first vehicle that's ever "beat" me. But maybe the kid will let me know what he finds. I got 5700.00 out of it which is less then I was hoping but that's the way it goes I guess. I picked up an 03 hemi 1/2 ton for now that I only had to put 1300.00 with so now Im on the prowl for a newer cummins. Even though I had some stupid problems with it I REALLY like the cummins motors and I'm a mopar nut so Ill have another one before too long
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You did tell the kid about your discussions here about it and told him to join didn't you??
How much newer truck are you looking for? Member CSnyder gets lots of trucks to sell!
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